Diss Family History Group

The earliest date found so far for when the Magpie started as a beerhouse is 1836. It traded until its closure in 1962.

Henry John BRAND, 40, publican, born in East Tuddenham, living with wife Hannah Esther (43), daughter Alice Eliza (8) and visitor Ellen FILBY (widow, 73). Address given as The Magpie, Walcot Green, Diss, Norfolk. (RG14 PN11445 RD230 SD2 ED3 SN78)

Henry John BRAND - Occupational Voters (other than lodgers) - Division One : Living in: Diss; Qualification: Dwelling house (successive); Place: Park Field Entry and Walcot Green.

27 July 1870 : Birth of Henry John (CURSON) BRAND in Coney Weston, Suffolk.

2 April 1871 : Census - John H CURSON, 7 months old, living with parents John (21, groom) and Ruth (25). Address given as France Green, East Tuddenham, Norfolk (RG10 Piece 1844 Folio 99 Page 14 Schedule 84)

4 August 1872 : Baptism of John Henry BRAND at East Tuddenham, parents John Robert and Ruth. Henry 2 years old, baptised on same day as brother James.

3 April 1881 : Census - John H BRAND, 10, scholar, living with parents John (31, domestic coachman) and Ruth S (35), and siblings James (9, scholar), Mason (7, scholar) and Mary A (2). Address given as The Village, Coney-Weston, Suffolk. (RG11 Piece 2013 Folio 59 Page 25 Schedule 700)

5 April 1891 : Census - no record found.

26 June 1892 : Marriage banns read for Henry John BRAND and Hannah Esther CRICK. Other dates read were 3 July and 10 July 1892.

17 Juyl 1892 : Marriage after banns of Henry John BRAND to Hannah Esther CRICK at the Parish Church in Diss. Ages 22 and 25 and parents John Brand (coachman) and Robert CRICK (turner) respectively.

31 March 1901 : Census - Henry J BRAND, 30, ironmongers porter, living with wife Hannah E (33) and 4 boarders, William BAKER (32, well sinkers labourer), George KEELEY (29, domestic groom), Jesse PRETTY (32, blacksmith) and William DIXON (17, roadman). Address given as Hope House, Park Fields Road, Diss, Norfolk. (RG13 Piece 1863 Folio 46 Page 17 Schedule 107)

2 April 1911 : Census - See above. Henry John and Hannah Esther married 18 years, 1 child still living; 5 rooms in dwelling. . Address given as The Magpie, Walcot Green, Diss, Norfolk. (RG14 PN11445 RD230 SD2 ED3 SN78)

19 June 1921 : Census - Henry John BRAND, 51, Licenced victualler, living with wife Hannah Esther (54, home duties), daughter Alice W (18, home duties), and visitors Herbert CRICK (47, licenced victualler) and Frederick J BAYES (40, licenced victuaqller). Address given as Magpie Inn, Walcot Green, Diss, Norfolk. (RG15 Piece 09783 RD 230 RS 2 ED 3)

30 September 1939 : National Registration - Henry John BRAND, b. 27 July 1870, beer retailer, living with wife Hannah E (b. 30 March 1867, domestic duties), Alice W DIX (married, b. 7 March 1903, domestic duties), and John F DIX (b. 19 March 1932, scholar). Address given as The Magpie, Walcot Green, Diss, Norfolk. (RG101/6524B/012/20 Letter Code: TQBC)

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There is some confusion as to whether given names were Henry John or John Henry.

John Henry was shown in the 1871 Census as having a surname of CURSON, his mother’s maiden name. Born before they were married?

Family:

• Father - John Robert BRAND, 1850 - ????
• Mother - Ruth Sarah Anne CURSON, 1845 - 1895.
• Wife - Hannah Esther CRICK, 30 March 1967 - 1948.
• Daughter - Alice Eliza BRAND, 1903 - 1992.

No proven record has been found for Henry’s death.

Was Henry John born in East Tuddenham or Coney Weston? He certainly moved when only a very few months old from one to the other.